Q.   Jonathan,  you  talked  about  Brent  last night and some of the

things  that  he said to you, and we remember back in Detroit how he helped

you out in the penalty box.  Does he have maybe more of a leadership, vocal

quality  with  you  guys  that  maybe we don't see so much from our vantage


      JONATHAN  TOEWS:  Of course, of course.  He always has.  Probably one

of  the louder guys before the game in the locker room, in between periods.

He's  always  getting the guys going.  I think that's part of his ritual to

get  himself  going, that he wants to be vocally involved and just get that

positive feeling, that excited feeling going for the boys.

      Obviously  he's  tried to do the same for me.  It was a big night for

the two of us last night.


      Q.  Jonathan, Chara was on the ice for five of your goals last night.

Did  that feel like a bit of a breakthrough given all the attention he gets

back  there,  and  what  did you do against him?  And Brandon, if you could

talk  about  seemed  like you were really trying to push him wide, make him

turn, that kind of thing?

      BRANDON  SAAD:   Well,  yeah, he's a big guy.  That's one of the main

goals  is  to  get  him  to move his feet and try to sustain that pressure.

He's a great defenseman but to keep that pressure and have the success that

we did, that's always a positive thing.

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   I agree.  I think I said last night that he does a

lot  of  good  things, and he uses his size and his reach to his advantage,

and  I  think maybe at times in the first couple games we were giving him a

little bit too much respect by trying to keep the puck away from him.

      He's  not  a  guy  that we should be afraid of.  We should go at him,

protect  the  puck from him, make plays around him and through him.  We use

our speed.

      You  saw  the  goal  that  Marcus Krüger scored, Fro (Michael Frolik)

never stopped moving his feet and got around him -- great play by those two

guys  to  finish  off  that  play.   It's a small example of the way we can

expose him.

      They've  got  a handful of solid players that we want to key on every

single night, and he's one of those guys, so we'll try and keep that going.


      Q.  Jon, Nick (Leddy) obviously had his minutes reduced a little bit.

As a captain and even with a young guy, do you try to make sure his head is

straight going forward and that he stays encouraged?

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   Yeah,  absolutely.   It's  not  easy  to keep your

confidence  and  then go out there and be prepared for the next shift or to

go  and  do  your  job  when  maybe you haven't been on the ice for quite a

while.    There's   some  guys  that  maybe  get  their  minutes  or  their

opportunities  reduced  here  and there, guys like Stally (Viktor Stalberg)

and  Ledds.  You try to talk to those guys just to stay with it because you

know when they're out there, they can really make a difference for us.

      That's  a  huge  sacrifice  that  guys like that have to make for our

team,  and we know mentally they're going to be ready, and those sacrifices

aren't going unnoticed by their teammates.


      Q.  Jonathan, I don't know if you guys hear all the noise or hear all

the  talk  or panic in the streets or anything like that, but do you have a

sense that through your years here as a captain that you have a pretty good

sense  when  it's time to find that extra gear even though you may have put

yourself in a bad situation, both from a team standpoint and you personally


      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   I  think absolutely we have a really good gauge on

that,  and we showed it in the series against Detroit.  That's something we

always  go  to and compare this series to.  We said that Detroit and Boston

are  two  very  similar  teams with the experience and the lineup that they


      But for us personally, you know you don't get this far, you don't win

a  Stanley  Cup without being pushed up against the wall and being in a few

tight  spots.   That's  where  we  were  last  night,  and  for us it was a

must-win.   We put it all out there, and we treated it as a Game 7.  We got

the result we wanted.

      I  think there's still some things we can do better, but for the guys

in  that  locker  room,  we  all understood how critical that game was last

night.   We showed up to play for each other.  I don't think the importance

of the next one is any smaller than Game 4.


      Q.   This  is  for both you guys.  Was that the pace of play that you

guys  would  like  to  play  the  rest  of the series or was that even more

free-wheeling than you guys want to go?

      BRANDON  SAAD:   I think the first game we played really well.  After

Game  3,  we  didn't have our best game and didn't play with that speed and

pace  that  we have success with.  I think going into Game 4, we all wanted

to bear down and play the way we need to, and we had success doing it.

      JONATHAN TOEWS:  I don't think there was anything free-wheeling about

our  game  last night.  Evidently we made a few mistakes and kept giving up

goals right after we scored, and when we got the momentum, they found a way

to  get  right back.  That's something we want to change if we can do so in

the next game.

      But  as  far  as our speed and our puck control, I think we were very

responsible  with  it.   It's something we want to keep going forward with,

and I think we can even build on in the next game.  The better you play and

the more you have the puck, and when you score a big goal especially in our

own building come Saturday night, it's going to give us even more energy.

      So that's something we're looking for in the next one.


      Q.   Jonathan, a two-part question:  First of all, I'm wondering what

it is about Brent and how he communicates with you that seems to be able to

get  the message through, and the second part of it, when he talked earlier

today  he  said that he was tired of hearing about all the good things that

you're  doing right, and sort of intimating that it was time for you to get

a goal, and I'm wondering if you felt the same way.

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   Yeah,  I definitely did.  You know, you play hard,

you  try  and  do  the little things right, but at a certain point it's not

enough.   You're  considered  an offensive player, key player on your team,

you've got to find a way to do something.

      He  wasn't trying to get on me, I don't think; he was definitely just

trying  to spark me a little bit.  I don't know if it's something that goes

with  the relationship and the friendship we've had over the years, rooming

with  him  my  rookie  year here in Chicago.  Goes a way back already.  But

he's always kind of looked after me that way.

      It's  good.   He  cares about his teammates and he wants guys to have

success, and just as much or more than anybody, he wants to win this thing.

He did what he had to do.

      Obviously  with  the success that he's had in the overtime periods in

some of these big games, he's the guy you want to get the puck to this time

of year.


      Q.   Jonathan,  you  touched  on  it  a little bit but when that puck

trickles off your stick, what was the feeling?

      JONATHAN TOEWS:  'Finally.'

Just  wanted  a  lucky  one, and that was it.  I think it doesn't make much

sense  when  you  say that, a puck going off your stick from the point, and

you  seeing it going in, can liberate you as a player and help you play the

rest  of the game with less pressure.  And just go out there and make plays

and let things happen instead of trying to force every single little thing,

but it does.

      That's  the difference it makes for you, and I think anyone will tell

you the same thing.

      You  know,  it's  not time to just dwell on that one goal.  I have to

use that confidence and go find a way to score more.


      Q.   Tuukka  Rask last night talked about second chances offensively,

which  I  think  was  a  change between Games 3 and 4.  What contributed to

getting more second chances against him?

      BRANDON  SAAD:  I think just the commitment we had.  In Game 3 we had

a  lot of time on the perimeter and getting shots. And when he can see (the

shots), at this level he's a great goaltender, he's going to make the save.

      Going  into  Game  4, we had the commitment of getting to the net and

taking  away  his  eyes  and  banging  in  those rebounds.  We had a lot of

success  doing  it, and it's something we've got to stay committed to do in

the rest of the series.

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   Yeah,  you  can look at Kaner's goal as an example

where we have traffic and we have a second guy coming in ready for any sort

of  rebound.   It's  like two guys screening the goaltender, and eventually

someone's  going to find the loose puck.  Bicks gets that second chance and

throws  it on net.  Kaner comes in for the next rebound.  That's the way we

want to score goals and create chances.

      We  talked  all  series about getting a lot of shots and getting that

traffic,  but  we  didn't  quite  do  it  well enough until last night, and

obviously we want to keep improving.


      Q.  Jon, back to the Seabrook thing and maybe scoring, is the message

also  if you're going to concentrate more on scoring that you might have to

cheat  a  little  bit, cheat the game a little bit and give up something in

other areas?

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:  No, I don't think so.  It just comes down to having

that  killer instinct when you're around the net, to take the puck there or

hang  onto  it  that  extra  second  instead of just making a safe play and

cycling  it  behind their net.  Where half the time, if you're on that side

of the rink, Chara is going to get his stick on it and next thing you know,

you might be back checking against their forward.

      It's just something, that confidence that: Hey, you can go out there,

you've  got the puck, don't be afraid, take a chance and throw it on net or

take it to the net.

      But  I  don't  think  it  means  to  cheat  or  to get away from your

defensive game because that's not something you want to do, especially when

you're up against Krejci or Bergeron's line.


      Q.   We talked a lot this year about how Corey Crawford has been able

to  bounce  back from an occasional bad goal here or there.  What makes you

think  it'll  be  the same after Saturday after a very rare bad game or off

game for him?

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   Well, I don't see why it would be different.  He's

had that maturity and that character all year that he's been able to bounce


      But to be honest with you, I don't really see anything terribly wrong

with  the  way  he played last night.  Maybe some of the shots from far out

that  went  in overshadowed some of the stops that he did make, and for the

most part I think as forwards we can maybe be a little more responsible and

getting  in  shooting  lanes  the way they would against us and some of the

shots  that  we take that maybe don't go through that they ended up scoring

on.   So we can help him a little bit more in that regard, and sometimes he

doesn't see pucks or -- I think there's something to be said about blocking

shots  and maybe helping our goaltender out a little bit more.  I'm not too

worried about how he's going to play in the next game.


      Q.   Jonathan,  I  know it's been four years since that last time you

guys  were  here  2-2 in the Cup final, but can you talk about how big that

game  was,  that Game 5 against Philly and how much of a lift that gave you

guys  toward  winning  the  Cup, and will you use that maybe to talk to the

guys who weren't there?

      JONATHAN  TOEWS:   It  was  huge.   I mean, a little bit different, I

think,  because  we lost two games straight on the road.  I think we played

good  hockey, we just didn't find a way to win in that hostile environment.

But  I  think  now  we  have momentum coming off a huge road win in Boston.

It's  something we really need to use.  We can't wait for the next one.  We

need to go out there and have a great start and just the excitement and the

feeling  that  we  had in the room and on the plane coming home last night,

I'm  sure  it was tough for all the guys to sleep after winning a game like


      That's  something we need to carry into this next one and not waste a

minute  of  it  because once you get the momentum, like we said in the last

game, we need to hang onto it a little bit better than we did in that game.

I'd say that's the biggest difference.


      Q.   Hockey  players  tend  to have and use the most nicknames out of

pretty  much any group of professional athletes.  Why do you think that is,

and how do you guys feel about them?

      JONATHAN TOEWS:  I'll let the man-child answer that one.

      BRANDON  SAAD:  I'm not really sure to be honest.  I guess growing up

you  always  get  nicknames  with  whatever team you're on.  There's always

someone  or  a few guys that want to call you different things.  I've had a

lot  growing up, and I guess it's just part of the camaraderie of the sport

and  the  guys  being  close.  So I'm not really sure of the exact science.

But we have fun doing it.

      JONATHAN TOEWS:  Yeah, I just have to say it's a team thing, and it's

just  a bunch of guys probably acting a little bit younger than they should

and  goofing  around.  I always feel I get the worst nicknames, but I guess

that's  the  way  it goes.  It's all about having fun and enjoying our time

together as a team, and I think that chemistry always carries on to how you

play on the ice together.


      Q.   Jonathan, I'm wondering at what point last night did you realize

that  this  was  probably  going  to  be a different game than the previous


      JONATHAN  TOEWS:  Well, I didn't think it was going to be a 6-5 game.

I  thought  when  we  went up 4-2, maybe that's when things would slow down

offensively  a  little  bit,  but  they  just kept coming back, and we kept

finding a way to go up a goal, as well.  I think it was finally 5-4, if I'm

right,  I  don't  even  remember  to be honest with you, but I thought when

Sharpy scored that goal that was it.  I thought maybe eight minutes left or

something  like  that,  and  we were going to find a way to defend and hold

them off for the rest of the period.

      Sure  enough,  they came back right back and scored again.  I guess a

series like this can take some unexpected turns sometimes, and you saw that

last  night.  I'm not going to make any predictions for what happens in the

next game, but obviously there's a lot of things we want to carry into this

game, Game 5, here.


      Q.   Jon, I don't know the tone that Seabrook talked to you with, but

since  you've  established  yourself  as the captain and the leader of this

team,  has  anybody  spoken to you like that in the past where he basically

says  I'm  sick  of what you're doing right, you need to start scoring more


      JONATHAN  TOEWS:  That was not the tone he used at all.  Let's set it

straight  here.  It was -- not a joke, but he'd be sitting in the lounge or

whatever at the hotel, and he just looked at me and I answered it wrong one

time  because  he  just  asked me, "What are you thinking about," and I was

like,  "Nothing;  what  are you thinking about?"  And he looked at me again

and  I  realized  what  he  wanted  me to say, and I snapped back and said,

"scoring  goals."   There  you  go.  That was all it was.  I don't think he

said  anything about that unless that was to someone else and I didn't hear

it.  I'm glad I didn't until now.